Bill Cosby Sentenced To 3-10 Years In Prison For Sexual Assault

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Yahoo News: Bill Cosby Sentenced To 3-10 Years In Prison For Sexual Assault
Bill Cosby was sentenced Tuesday to three to 10 years in prison by a Pennsylvania judge who had designated the comedian a "sexually violent predator."

Judge Steven O'Neill sentenced Cosby in a Norristown, Pennsylvania courtroom, capping a two-day hearing attended by about a dozen women who accused Cosby of sexual assault, including the Andrea Constand whom he was convicted of assaulting in his suburban Philadelphia home in 2004. "This defendant is designated a sexually violent predator," O'Neill said from the bench before announcing Cosby's sentence.

O'Neill asked defense attorney Joseph Green whether Cosby wanted to make a statement before he is sentenced. Cosby declined.

Cosby appeared alert, cooperative and engaged earlier Tuesday morning as he answered series of questions from prosecutor M. Stuart Ryan designed to determine whether he fully comprehended the implications and consequences of the "sexually violent predator" designation.

Pennsylvania state law defines a person with such a designation has "a mental abnormality or personality disorder that makes the person likely to engage in predatory sexually violent offenses." The consequences of such a designation are severe and lifelong.

The designation also means that Cosby will be required by law to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life and be subject to the most stringent requirements a sex offender can incur.

At one point, Cosby interrupted Ryan with a question: "If I went from the city to another city ... even if it's just overnight, do I have to get in touch with the state police?"

Ryan suggested Cosby seek the counsel of his attorneys.

Cosby's lawyers had pleaded with O'Neill Monday not to send the entertainer they described as an 81-year-old, infirmed blind man to prison but rather place him under house arrest.

But Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin Steele asked O'Neill to incarcerate Cosby with a maximum sentence, arguing Monday that saying "he's too old to go to prison is a get-out-of-jail-free card."

Cosby was convicted in April of drugging and molesting Andrea Constand, a former director of operations of women's basketball at Cosby's alma mater Temple University who once considered the comedian a mentor. The assault occurred in 2004 at Cosby's suburban Philadelphia home.

In a written statement to O'Neill, which was released just before the judge ruled on Cosby’s status, Constand wrote, "Bill Cosby took my beautiful, healthy young spirit and crushed it. He robbed me of my health and vitality, my open nature, and my trust in myself and others."
 

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Cosby's behavior was over the top. Nonetheless, I think people love to hate others - not looking at their own degeneracy (take that as you will).

But it is fun to make fun of Cosby Jello ads or creepy Cosby Show episodes.
 

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Cosby's behavior was over the top. Nonetheless, I think people love to hate others - not looking at their own degeneracy (take that as you will).

But it is fun to make fun of Cosby Jello ads or creepy Cosby Show episodes.
Depending upon the circumstance, and speaking in very general terms .. hate, can be such a really strong, and really destructive word.

IMO anyway ..not so much hate the person ..but rather .. hate the act.



Now, in the case of Cosby and any other sex predators .. i pray that his victims and their loved ones, in their own time, and in their own way, through pure strength, overcome the hatred they must, and more than likely, can't help but feel. And I wish that not for any kind of sense of well-being or benefit that it might bring to Cosby and any other like-minded offenders ..but for their victims themselves. In holding that kind of pure hatred in their hearts and in their souls .. i don't feel that some women/young girls would, or could, eva find any of the true inner peace or serenity, or sense of safety that once they possessed in their lives ..that he so cruelly robbed them of.

"Pennsylvania state law defines a person with such a designation has a mental abnormality or personality disorder that makes the person likely to engage in predatory sexually violent offenses." "The consequences of such a designation are severe and lifelong.'

Severe and lifelong. Yes. Jayson .. do you know how many girls and other vulnerable women, end up with multiple suicide attempts during their lives? Do you know how many times they end up on a cold slab in the morgue? Do you realize how many women, who prior to having the misfortune of encountering these predators, were well adjusted, happy and healthy contributing members of society, who end up spiraling down into a brand new life of filled with drugs and alcoholism? They tend to form lifelong, unwarranted hatred of themselves. Serious and acute self mutilation is so often, too often, seen in clinical settings. These types of incidents, most often happen, many, many years after the depraved act was committed against them. Sometimes the victim has tried much therapy, many different medications ..but ultimately nothing can dull their deep pain. And for these women/girls they self mutilate, because for them, it is their only way of taking back at least some semblance of control over the pain, when nothing else, for them, has worked. They cut themselves, deep, because for a little while, it makes them feel better. In the words of one victim, that i personally know, 'better me causing my own pain ..then allowing him to control my mental torment and torture.'

God forbid that your mother, sister, daughter or friend ends up at the wrong place, at the wrong time. Because all those fun jokes you speak of ..all of a sudden would no longer appear funny. Perhaps, instead of fun ..they would end up more than enraging you.
 
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Depending upon the circumstance, and speaking in very general terms .. hate, can be such a really strong, and really destructive word.

IMO anyway ..not so much hate the person ..but rather .. hate the act.
Yeah, but the problem is so many of these women are sexually immoral and/or greedy that it's tough to hold them as saintly.

The problem is that if someone swims in shark infested waters - then are we shocked they get bit?
 
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Yeah, but the problem is so many of these women are sexually immoral and/or greedy that it's tough to hold them as saintly.

The problem is that if someone swims in shark infested waters - then are we shocked they get bit?
Are... Are you really using a defence that simultaneously paints women as deserving to be raped, whilst at the same time proclaiming that men (the 'sharks' in this analogy) are only doing what is natural to them? Even if we entertain the belief that people should get what they deserve, how is this punishment determined? What arbitrary method of determination are you using?

Is it related just to the clothes the women wear?
Is it related to the number of sexual partners they've had, either in total or during an arbitrary length of time?
Is it related to them smiling at you, and you deciding that alone is enough to get your tip wet, before becoming enraged that she was just being polite and choking her into unconsciousness before taking what you think is rightfully yours as a shark?

That, of course, doesn't even take into account the implication you've made, that rape is simply man's nature. You've somehow managed to make a comment both misogynous and misandrous at the same time, and I'm honestly stunned.

Would you care to assert your belief that blacks should be culled, just so we can add racism to the list of disgusting vitriol?
 

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Are... Are you really using a defence that simultaneously paints women as deserving to be raped, whilst at the same time proclaiming that men (the 'sharks' in this analogy) are only doing what is natural to them? Even if we entertain the belief that people should get what they deserve, how is this punishment determined? What arbitrary method of determination are you using?

Is it related just to the clothes the women wear?
Is it related to the number of sexual partners they've had, either in total or during an arbitrary length of time?
Is it related to them smiling at you, and you deciding that alone is enough to get your tip wet, before becoming enraged that she was just being polite and choking her into unconsciousness before taking what you think is rightfully yours as a shark?

That, of course, doesn't even take into account the implication you've made, that rape is simply man's nature. You've somehow managed to make a comment both misogynous and misandrous at the same time, and I'm honestly stunned.

Would you care to assert your belief that blacks should be culled, just so we can add racism to the list of disgusting vitriol?
Look, crime has to be punished. However, the defendants often aren't saints either - though to a way lesser degree than the shark.
 

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C'mon bruh, you can't be blaming the victims here. That's just a pathetic thing to do. It doesn't matter if they weren't "saints", none of them wanted to be drugged and then sexually violated. Doesn't matter how they dressed, what they were like, or anything. The ONLY thing that matters is he raped these women, and no matter what weird and shallow defenses you try to come up with for him, he deserves everything he is getting and fill be getting.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out what point you're trying to make, but no matter how hard I dig, there's nothing to be found.
 

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Severe and lifelong. Yes. Jayson .. do you know how many girls and other vulnerable women, end up with multiple suicide attempts during their lives? Do you know how many times they end up on a cold slab in the morgue? Do you realize how many women, who prior to having the misfortune of encountering these predators, were well adjusted, happy and healthy contributing members of society, who end up spiraling down into a brand new life of filled with drugs and alcoholism? They tend to form lifelong, unwarranted hatred of themselves. Serious and acute self mutilation is so often, too often, seen in clinical settings. These types of incidents, most often happen, many, many years after the depraved act was committed against them. Sometimes the victim has tried much therapy, many different medications ..but ultimately nothing can dull their deep pain. And for these women/girls they self mutilate, because for them, it is their only way of taking back at least some semblance of control over the pain, when nothing else, for them, has worked. They cut themselves, deep, because for a little while, it makes them feel better. In the words of one victim, that i personally know, 'better me causing my own pain ..then allowing him to control my mental torment and torture.'
This is a common argument against child abuse, bullying and the like. However, though, most people have been thru some of this and it's unavoidable. Unfortunately, some just can't handle it - but I'm not trying to be insensitive here.

Would you care to assert your belief that blacks should be culled, just so we can add racism to the list of disgusting vitriol?
Oh, believe me. I hate racists! However, there is racism as something used to bully and hurt people's feelings and then there is a reaction to stuff like crime - which is often hard to point just to individuals.
 
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Look, crime has to be punished. However, the defendants often aren't saints either - though to a way lesser degree than the shark.
Oh, believe me. I hate racists! However, there is racism as something used to bully and hurt people's feelings and then there is a reaction to stuff like crime - which is often hard to point just to individuals.
Of course, crime should be punished. But right now the most egregious crime is the claim that women deserve to be raped if they dress provocatively, which is the core of your argument. That and the claim that men are rape machines that think only with their penises. Sentiments like this definitely make me glad to have zero interest in males, honestly. Even now, you're trying to pass the buck and diminish the responsibility of people who make the conscious choice to invade another person's life and destroy it in one of the most harmful ways possible. Even now you're trying to put the blame on victims of a horrendous crime, and your defence is what? "She knew her ass looked tight in those jeans so it's her fault I raped her"?

There is no crime in a woman dressing in a way that accentuates her physical assets. There is no crime in a woman flirting with men despite having no desire to engage in sexual intercourse with them. There is no crime in saying 'no'.

There is a crime in rape. And proclaiming that they either {A}deserve it or {B}should expect it to be a possibility is utterly disgusting. You insult all women by saying so, and you insult all men by implying that they are sharks ready to feed on whatever meat happens to float past. Civilization has progressed past the caveman era, though judging by your statements, I wonder if perhaps you haven't.

As far as racism is concerned, my point was simply that since you've already seen fit to devolve men into nothing more than thirsty rapists and women into nothing more than sex toys because they wore a short skirt, you might as well hit the trifecta and call for a racial genocide or two in order to even it out. Or maybe a Hitler-like religious genocide instead.

Reacting to crime or attempting to bully makes no difference; racism is racism, and trying to justify the rationality by saying "sometimes it's hard to tell tho" is quite frankly idiotic.
 
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I'd just like to add to the whole "shark in the water" comment: As a male, I've never once in my life had any kind of "natural instinct" of wanting to rape a woman. So that whole comment is just utter stupidity. Any male who has that sort of natural instinct is not right in the head and probably shouldn't be allowed in society.
 
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Of course, crime should be punished. But right now the most egregious crime is the claim that women deserve to be raped if they dress provocatively, which is the core of your argument. That and the claim that men are rape machines that think only with their penises. Sentiments like this definitely make me glad to have zero interest in males, honestly. Even now, you're trying to pass the buck and diminish the responsibility of people who make the conscious choice to invade another person's life and destroy it in one of the most harmful ways possible. Even now you're trying to put the blame on victims of a horrendous crime, and your defence is what? "She knew her ass looked tight in those jeans so it's her fault I raped her"?

There is no crime in a woman dressing in a way that accentuates her physical assets. There is no crime in a woman flirting with men despite having no desire to engage in sexual intercourse with them. There is no crime in saying 'no'.

There is a crime in rape. And proclaiming that they either {A}deserve it or {B}should expect it to be a possibility is utterly disgusting. You insult all women by saying so, and you insult all men by implying that they are sharks ready to feed on whatever meat happens to float past. Civilization has progressed past the caveman era, though judging by your statements, I wonder if perhaps you haven't.

As far as racism is concerned, my point was simply that since you've already seen fit to devolve men into nothing more than thirsty rapists and women into nothing more than sex toys because they wore a short skirt, you might as well hit the trifecta and call for a racial genocide or two in order to even it out. Or maybe a Hitler-like religious genocide instead.

Reacting to crime or attempting to bully makes no difference; racism is racism, and trying to justify the rationality by saying "sometimes it's hard to tell tho" is quite frankly idiotic.
I never said women should dress in Sunday clothes all the time. I'm just saying Hollywood is swimming with women who make poor association choices and women that are greedy. OK, one lady makes a poor choice of associates, runs into Cosby - who is hunting women, and something happens!

As for racism, I can't really do nothing about it, especially in racist areas like the south where I live. But I can protest extreme examples of it, like say, a black/white couple with kids being harassed out of my valley (happened, true story).

I'd just like to add to the whole "shark in the water" comment: As a male, I've never once in my life had any kind of "natural instinct" of wanting to rape a woman. So that whole comment is just utter stupidity. Any male who has that sort of natural instinct is not right in the head and probably shouldn't be allowed in society.
Most men are not like that, but some are - so you have to watch your associations, where you hang out.
 
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I read in two different tabloids today(take this info with a grain of salt) that Cosby has not been doing well and the following things were mentioned in both.

1. Still refuses to admit to any wrong doing and likens what is happening to him as being like Jesus and is afraid of being poisoned.
2. Is on suicide watch and has everything that can be used to hurt himself taken away. At one point, he fell down some steps because he didn' thave his cane and no one was there to help him down the steps.
3. At one point, inmates hurled hot dog rolls at him as he passed by. I am guessing they were having hot dogs for their meal and decided to forgo eating the roll and instead chuck it at Cosby instead.
4. At night, inmates who were being holed up next to Cosby's cell would mockingly do his stand up routines to him.
5. inmates were divided as to what they thought of Cosby as half supported him while the other half didn't and wanted to do their own brand of justice if they had the opportunity to do so.
6. His wife has stated she has no interested in visiting him in prison during his stay there.

Whether any of this is true or not, I can't say but I wouldn't say it was all that far fetched so it's possible they have a legit story they are reporting on for once.
 

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I read in two different tabloids today(take this info with a grain of salt) that Cosby has not been doing well and the following things were mentioned in both.

1. Still refuses to admit to any wrong doing and likens what is happening to him as being like Jesus and is afraid of being poisoned.
2. Is on suicide watch and has everything that can be used to hurt himself taken away. At one point, he fell down some steps because he didn' thave his cane and no one was there to help him down the steps.
3. At one point, inmates hurled hot dog rolls at him as he passed by. I am guessing they were having hot dogs for their meal and decided to forgo eating the roll and instead chuck it at Cosby instead.
4. At night, inmates who were being holed up next to Cosby's cell would mockingly do his stand up routines to him.
5. inmates were divided as to what they thought of Cosby as half supported him while the other half didn't and wanted to do their own brand of justice if they had the opportunity to do so.
6. His wife has stated she has no interested in visiting him in prison during his stay there.

Whether any of this is true or not, I can't say but I wouldn't say it was all that far fetched so it's possible they have a legit story they are reporting on for once.
I sort of feel sorry for him. I mean, we all have a dark side. Who knows when it comes out and then we have to face hell!

OK, at the least, I mean, a lot of us have probably bullied kids, did other cruel things we don't do now - or maybe do a little, though trying to stop.
 
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I never said women should dress in Sunday clothes all the time. I'm just saying Hollywood is swimming with women who make poor association choices and women that are greedy. OK, one lady makes a poor choice of associates, runs into Cosby - who is hunting women, and something happens!

As for racism, I can't really do nothing about it, especially in racist areas like the south where I live. But I can protest extreme examples of it, like say, a black/white couple with kids being harassed out of my valley (happened, true story).



Most men are not like that, but some are - so you have to watch your associations, where you hang out.
Ignoring the massive amount of backpedalling you're doing (seriously, it's difficult to believe almost), your statements are still ignoring a key aspect, and that is the victim cannot be blamed. From the very beginning you've been tripping over yourself to lay blame on the victim of the rape ("so many of these women are sexually immoral and/or greedy that it's tough to hold them as saintly.") and attempting to lessen the impact of being raped by using this perceived immorality as a reason for bad things to happen to them, rationalising that they deserve it. ("The problem is that if someone swims in shark infested waters - then are we shocked they get bit?")

There is ONE party that can be blamed for rape. And let me tell you, it certainly isn't the victim. Yes, some women make poor life choices, association choices, whatever. That does not give any man the right to take advantage of her and sexually assault her. A woman should not need to fear men, nor their actions. A woman should be able to walk down the street completely stark goddamn naked, and the only fear should come from being arrested for public indecency.

I really don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The rapist is the criminal; stop trying to turn them into the victims of their own biology.
 
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Ignoring the massive amount of backpedalling you're doing (seriously, it's difficult to believe almost), your statements are still ignoring a key aspect, and that is the victim cannot be blamed. From the very beginning you've been tripping over yourself to lay blame on the victim of the rape ("so many of these women are sexually immoral and/or greedy that it's tough to hold them as saintly.") and attempting to lessen the impact of being raped by using this perceived immorality as a reason for bad things to happen to them, rationalising that they deserve it. ("The problem is that if someone swims in shark infested waters - then are we shocked they get bit?")

There is ONE party that can be blamed for rape. And let me tell you, it certainly isn't the victim. Yes, some women make poor life choices, association choices, whatever. That does not give any man the right to take advantage of her and sexually assault her. A woman should not need to fear men, nor their actions. A woman should be able to walk down the street completely stark goddamn naked, and the only fear should come from being arrested for public indecency.

I really don't get why that's so difficult to understand. The rapist is the criminal; stop trying to turn them into the victims of their own biology.
Not sure if sexual immorality is the problem. The problem is bad crowds. There was some girl in my family who hung around bad crowds. Sure enough she married a sociopath.

I mean, of some girl want to dress scantily/nude and she's among decent people - I doubt anything is going to happen.

There is ONE party that can be blamed for rape. And let me tell you, it certainly isn't the victim. Yes, some women make poor life choices, association choices, whatever. That does not give any man the right to take advantage of her and sexually assault her.
Some bad areas have protection for the girls from creeps. However, though, it's often the protectors who also beat them I think (like a pimp, bar security, or something).
 
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Not sure if sexual immorality is the problem. The problem is bad crowds. There was some girl in my family who hung around bad crowds. Sure enough she married a sociopath.

I mean, of some girl want to dress scantily/nude and she's among decent people - I doubt anything is going to happen.



Some bad areas have protection for the girls from creeps. However, though, it's often the protectors who also beat them I think (like a pimp, bar security, or something).
Wh... Your initial appraisal was that sexually immoral women should expect rape as a potential repercussion, now you're saying the issue is their social circles? It's certainly fair to say a large portion of victims know their attackers in some way (according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, between 2005-2010 78% of sexual assaults against women, which includes successful rape, unsuccessful rape, and non-rape sexual abuse, was committed by somebody the victim knew. Whether it was a family member, friend, etc. You can read the whole thing HERE if you wish.) However, all this information really does is throw your "shark" comment out. Also, a friendly reminder: Anecdotes don't really mean a thing when debating. It's all too easy for them to be tailored to suit whatever side you happen to be arguing, whereas evidence and statistics can't really lie.

Now, I'd like to point out something that doesn't really make sense to me. You've suddenly steered the conversation from rape to prostitution and the mistreatment of women who partake in that particular route of employment. I'm not sure what you're trying to do? I don't think it's fair to call a pimp a "protector" as they're typically in it for the money and think of women as nothing more than merchandise to be sold for profit. Bar security I can kind of see as a protective role, but... Honestly, I'd like to see some kind of statistics here. Otherwise it just seems like you're trying to muddy the waters.
 
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